Thanks for this post. I loved coffee brown yesterday but now I’m worried about it pulling too much red. I do need help though. So, my questions are….Is this a good product to use on really dark floors? We sampled Jacobean and dark walnut on pine and our samples came out much darker than yours. PLEASE WATER MARK YOUR PHOTOS SO I CAN FIND THE PROPER SOURCE! The colors in the top row, from left to right (from what I can recall) are: 1-Natural, 2-Custom blend I think, maybe Spice Brown and Jacobean??? But with limited resources (not to mention space), we settled on 5 popular species of wood commonly used by DIYers, with 6 different stains; 2 light, 2 medium and 2 dark. There are 2 options of stains I found for me but I can’t decide which one would be the best. You could also do a blend of both if you like so it matches a bit better. Riftsawn and quartersawn oak is gorgeous, but plainsawn needs to go away! Although, no red came through with the pine at all. Hmmm… I would look at Driftwood, Grey, Birch and Twig to start with. Full Disclosure on Sponsorships & Affiliates, Casual Friday: Polly’s Sleeping, Eating and Schedule at 6 Months old, How much is all this costing? This is the BEST ever and so thorough! And yes, I would definitely recommend looking into using a hardwax oil. At the moment I am indecisive on whether or not to stain our cherry floors. Combine the Minwax Design Series with other Minwax stains to produce on-trend looks, finishes and special effects. We see a lot on the web about jacobean and dark walnut but not as much about antique brown. Minwax Wood Putty is a non-hardening, pre-mixed putty color-matched to Minwax Wood Finish stains. I love this! Cabot makes a good one, and you can get it from Lowe’s. Thanks! You know what would make this complete? If so, no, that isn’t normal. It adds wonderful warmth and feels very natural and timeless. My goggles, my respirator mask and crappy old clothes. Still love the solid wood cabinets, still love the arrangement. Could be a number of things…. Question, do have any idea as to whether the sealer/shellac will change the stain colors at all (i.e. window.fd('form', { Jacobean is a beautiful, rustic color that reminds of cabin colors! Such useful info! Would we see a noticeable difference? I know I will always reference this post! If you’re wanting to go even darker than this, I recommend trying Jacobean. You want some contrasts. But then there is the world of bleaching! When you do, if you live in Naperville or the surrounding area, we’ll be here to help transform those beautiful hardwood floors into the perfect shade of stain you’ve been dreaming about. Best practice would be to get a piece of walnut and do some tests. It’s because of cheap, poor quality finishes that dark stained floors have this reputation of showing scratches easily. I’m surprised how subtle simply white was on oak, less painted white looking than I expected. However since the top gets plenty of use I put on a coat of varathene. Mixed with dark walnut would darken it and give it a more modern edge. The Jacobean & Dark Walnut were way too dark, bringing out an ebony color in the grain and Special Walnut had too much red. I’m curious of a recipe for red oak to match white oak. Not only did this help me decide on stains, it really helped me to better understand how different wood grains vary. Use it to repair minor scratches, gouges, and nail holes. Good thing we love doing them! It should! My floor guy really doesn’t want to change the color of banister and spindles. Would you please share the technique you used on the simply white? And I thought the pickled looked good on red oak – you didn’t?! I just re did my hardwood floors in special walnut and the color came out way too light. We have red oak dark walnut stained floors in our living room, hall and dining room. Hi Lisa! Which stain on which wood do you think is closest to West Elm’s pecan, like the pecan legs of their Drake sofa? You need to be prepared to sweep your floors at least every other day to have them show off their beauty. Thank You! This is one of the darkest floors we have done…. Need your advice. Thanks for doing all the hard work! We took 3 feet of water, in our 1955 mid century home, with Hurricane Harvey last Aug. I’ve had one nightmare after the next, ever since. I hate dog pee and carpets. I am limited on cabinet space so I am doing diy open shelves in our kitchen and I just knew your blog was the place to go for tips on mixing wood tones! The choice will come down to the factors talked about in this series of posts here: https://napervillehardwood.com/blog/how-to-choose-hardwood-floor-finish-part-1/. I heard the oil gets a yellow color and I do not want it to look weird over time what do you recommend? It doesn’t lean towards being red at all and has a beautiful richness to it. I’m going to try the simply white on white oak. Also agree with comment about poly. This is SO and great and helpful- I seriously loved reading this and studying the results. Thank you for your help, creativity, time and amazing design inspiration. In my own home we used Magic Oil and are very happy with it. Red oak definitely is more tricky, but so beautiful, too. You lucky duck :P. Thank you, I just stained my floors with Jacobean. Instead of the wood grains picking up redness, you can see they all went a very neutral brown. I personally prefer medium colors so I actually really like the medium stains best on the pine (although that birch is beautiful and I wish I was doing that haha). I have a bit of a dilemma in that I have white oak floors in my newly renovated kitchen and original red Oak from 1930 on the rest of my main floor. Try to get a large natural sample and live with it for a week or two. WOULD LOve to see samples of stains on cedar! You can see how to do it here: How much would it cost to stain a +15 year old oak floor a darker color per sq ft? Dark Wood for 2017. 5. How would you suggest to get a light ebony color where it doesn’t look like ink, but more sheer? Jacobean by Minwax Minwax Jacobean is a rich, dark brown color. Oh no! I want to change that to Dark Walnut. The photo below shows the result of a three-layered Rubio Monocoat system for very dark floors…, In order to get a more even color and depth, plus a few shades darker, we go also go through a process called water popping when staining floors darker colors. The white on the pine makes my heart race! 90% of my customers choose a slightly different color on other materials that isn’t flooring. Thanks for putting in the work to share. Natural wood tones vary, so expect your final stain color to vary slightly from board to board. Never saw this before. That’s hard to say without seeing your place in person. Would Jacobean or Dark Walnut be better to compliment with antique brown existing on stairs? The problem is the previous owners dogs peed all over the rugs ! I love that look! Maybe Jacobean. This was a great post!! Please advise. Love my pine floors! Anonymous: Have them do a swatch of each and then a 50/50 mix swatch. We’re in the process of refinishing our red oak floors and have searched what feels like the entirety of the internet for a post like this! I thought the pickled looked nice too. Simply gorgeous. It’s a nice looking floor and very, very dark. Awesome post. This was very helpful in moving forward with our birch project! That was a lot of work. The green that is generally very pronounced in Poplar, turned into more of a warm gray. This was incredibly helpful. The rest of the floor looks great. lighten, darken, turn redder, etc.)? Matthew, Is there any way to have mahogany wood floors stained dark? We are refinishing them and I am so confused on which stain color to go with. Varathane 1 qt. :D Thanks for the comparison – so useful!! Am I wrong that satin finishes are dull looking? My only complaint is that you DID NOT WATERMARK YOUR PHOTOS!! I tried this on white oak and did not get the look you got but I want to achieve this! The other is to remove and replace the damaged boards. thank you so much for this. I am restoring a significantly damaged Gunn barrister bookcase….in oak….and your comparison has helped me finalize my choice! As you can see, staining oak is very different. Brand- Minwax stains actually have less pigment in them compared to others like Mohawk, etc. I really like this post and would love to see another post just like it, but with different woods and stains. Maybe it was lighting. You guys did a fantastic job with this. Hi, We just purchased a house with 60 year old red oak floors and have decided to remove all the carpet and replace the pee stained boards with new ones. what is ur opinion about provincial in minwax and what finish satin vs smigloss?will combination of provincial and dark walnut look good? Have you ever tried a mix of Ebony and Grey on red oak? You can read a previous blog post about this process here:  Water Popping Hardwood Floors, Lately we have been doing a lot of Ebony with Jacobean. The color appears so much lighter on wood samples. (Ebony mixed with Red Mahogany 2:3). I have an old 90s red oak dining table and I’d like to go for the PotteryBarn “Seadrift” color. Extremely helpful!! Would you use the same color on the wood floors as the columns? one coat didn’t look good and a second coat was added and it too dark. I hope it looks great and you love your new floors. I’m wondering if you recommend staining dark or light on these floors? At first I was planning on pine because it’s cheaper…just not sure which stain to use…then I thought I would spend a little more and get red oak…now I have come here and I’m not sure if I want poplar, white oak, or red oak. The only way I could see this working is if you apply a white wash type finish like Bona Nordic Seal: https://www.bona.com/en-US/Bona-Professional/Products/Coatings/Waterborne-Finishes-and-Sealers/NordicSeal/. Your email address will not be published. Thanks! 2) Possibly the darker floor was water popped and the lighter floor wasn’t, 3) As you mentioned, the color of the stain was different as it’s a different brand. Javascript must be enabled for the correct page display, (Comments are moderated and may take a couple of days to be approved.). Do you recommend Sherwin Williams or Minwax for an Ebony stain? I wanted to get a look at the colors in different lighting, so the picture above was taken last night. Your email address will not be published. I’ve been told no in the past, but someone told me that with the new gel stains out there it is possible. Do you have thoughts on these 3 and why antique brown doesn’t seem to be as popular? Hello. I’ve been researching for weeks and driving myself nuts with my white oak choice. (It’s a master bedroom, about 400 sq feet). Guess I’ll have to ask the girlfriend what her preference is and I’ll build it to her specs. No I wouldn’t add more stain. We came to picked Oak after looking into wax-based finishes (Bona, etc.) Colors are shown on White Oak. Over the past few years, fashionable floors have been getting darker and darker. Minwax Jacobean. Any ideas would be helpful. I have most of my new doors (they were about a $100 a piece, so they are poplar I guess, maybe birch) painted repose Gray on one side, but the other side I want to stain. If not, then I would at least like to take some of the red out of my floor and also wondered if you used a green stain on the mahogany if that would help counter the redness? That floor was coated with a satin finish. I have no idea when I’ll be starting on this. I think some people just don’t care about that sort of thing! And how will an Ebony and Royal Mahogany mix look? If this is a potential series, I’d love more in depth on layering stains and working with Gel Stains as that is surprisingly easy to do but provides very ‘next level’ results. Is this norma? Jacobean is a beautiful, rustic color that reminds of cabin colors! We know this is one of the hardest decisions you’ll need to make when it comes to having your hardwood floors sanded and refinished. I cannot thank you enough for doing this experiment and sharing it! I’m not sure to be honest sorry. Hi, need recommendation asap re floor stain for red oak floors. It is the matte-est sealer I have ever seen or used. For darker maybe look at a mix of Jacobean and Ebony. Some people know that black cars are harder to keep clean but they love the look of them so much that they buy one anyways. Useful helpful post. What ratio of royal mahogany and ebony would achieve a very dark wood look with a slight tinge of red in it? Both of the oak species took on a sort of Cerused look I’m very into. This next picture was also taken last night… Hi, I’m in need of help, I have oak parquet flooring on it’s way, plus the treds and banisters to do on my stairs, I’m loving the dark colours of Jacobean and Ebony, but love be in the uk, also need it to be tough as I have dogs(paws), I’ve been reading all your blogs, but still need it spelling out to me,ha, what do I use for all my surfaces, want it to look rich with a satin finish, please help, Thankyou Char. I am sanding a 18C vanity unit that is Chestnut. What is the ratio? Of course I don’t want them to look dull, but I also want little to no shine to go with my industrial glam decor. Dark floors can be a challenge though which is why some guys shy away from them. Make Offer - 54337 T4: Set of 6 Antique Walnut Carved Jacobean Dining Chairs Side w Cushion 57560 Jacobean Burled Walnut Antique Vanity Desk with Mirror $465.00 We hope you feel welcome and maybe find inspiration, because we should all love where we live.". This experiment has been a great help! Either one will work over a dark stained floor. Colors like ebony, jacobean, espresso (a blend of ebony and a lighter jacobean), and dark walnut are becoming more and more popular. Thank you so much! Thanks in advance. simply the best thing I’ve seen on how various stains work on various woods Thank you for doing this. I am looking to build a platform / platform bed and I have white oak grey pink floors and looking to contrast it with either a less grainy wood like natural Birch, Maple, and not White Oak, but may want to stain it with a semi glossed Charcoal Gray. The Jacobean was a one of our choices, I’m leaning toward Ebony now with 2 coats. I also have Jacobean, and Ebony and combinations of those plus a water popped version too. I am about to have my character grade hickory engineered floors sanded for the second and last time and need some help on color and finish. Do you know by chance if you could go over the Jacobean with the simply white to get some contrast? With red mahogany, if you like dark, deep rich shades then 50% that with 50% ebony looks stunning. (Then wash with 1/4 vinegar/water and lightly sand.) I love the ebony/Jacobean mix. You shouldn’t have to “convince your floor guy”, he should be doing the color you want, they’re your floors after all :). thanks robert. However, I noticed in your photos showing Dark Walnut and Jacobean, the pine samples for each color look much lighter than the same colors do in the photo of only pine boards with all of the colors. I’m afraid of having the oil based turn simply white on white oak any bit of amber or golden. I like the satin finishes and am not opposed to one of the hard wax oils that you reviewed (Pullman, Rubio and Osmo). Dark floors are a lot more maintenance than medium or light colored wood floors. looking to refinish our hardwood floors. You can even 'go lighter' with antique and coffee brown. Loved seeing all the side by side comparisons. I’d start with 3/4 Ebony to 1/4 Mahogany and take it from there. Is there yellow pine and white pine? Have you found one color stain that makes them similar? Thank you. My husband and my new contractor think I’m nuts. My suggestion would be to use a scrap piece of wood that is the same type that you want to treat, and test your different options. Can I turn up the shine just a little more on a satin finish? This is super helpful! The finish would have been Pallmann 96 satin – a waterbased finish. Hi Julia & Chris. It doesn’t look like it from the red oak samples. The second option would depend on how extensive the damage is and the cost to do. Jacobean by Minwax Minwax Jacobean is a rich, dark brown color. We did a very light sanding and did stain these inside. ebony alone is too dark for me, ebony and jacobean too brown. Subject: Minwax Jacobean or Dark Walnut floor stain? This video shows you the final look when refinishing old hardwood flooring. Thank you for taking the time to document and share the results ! This is a great post and helped me decide which stain to use on the twin bed my husband is making for our son! Super helpful! How many coats of stain did you do on the samples? I’m nervous I won’t like how it turns out. Exactly what I needed to move forward with my project! B. 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